Legislature(2001 - 2002)

02/27/2001 03:03 PM House HES

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HB 114-INHALANT ABUSE                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  DYSON  announced  the committee  would  hear  testimony  on                                                              
HOUSE BILL NO. 114, "An Act relating to abuse of inhalants."                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 0884                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MARY  KAPSNER,   Alaska  State  Legislature,  came                                                              
forth  as sponsor  of HB 114.   She  stated that  HB 114  provides                                                              
public  safety  officials,  medical   personnel,  and  the  courts                                                              
leverage to  place individuals  who use  and abuse inhalants  into                                                              
rehabilitation.   She mentioned  that in 1999  she went  to Bethel                                                              
for the  inhalant abuse conference  held by YKHC  (Yukon-Kuskokwim                                                              
Health  Corporation).    At  the   conference  she  realized  that                                                              
because  inhalant  abuse is  not  illegal, village  public  safety                                                              
officers (VPSOs)  and health aides have no leverage  in convincing                                                              
kids not to [use inhalants].                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 0942                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KAPSNER  stated that  although  inhalant abuse  is                                                              
not  a   new  problem,  it   is  reaching  "rampant   proportions"                                                              
throughout Alaska  and among youth  across the nation.   She noted                                                              
that  as  of  January  1999,  24  other  states  had  passed  laws                                                              
addressing  inhalant  abuse,  ranging from  punishing  people  who                                                              
sell  contrabanded   items  that   were  used  for   inhalants  to                                                              
punishing people who  abused inhalants.  The laws  vary greatly in                                                              
content, from  sending individuals  to treatment to  criminalizing                                                              
their behavior.   She  remarked that  one of  the problems  is the                                                              
lack of treatment  facilities, which are very different  from drug                                                              
and alcohol  abuse facilities.   She added  that it could  take 30                                                              
or 40  days just  to "detox"  people to  the point  that they  can                                                              
accept  treatment.   For example,  she said,  sometimes the  brain                                                              
retardation  is  so severe  [from  inhalant abuse]  that  patients                                                              
don't have  any auditory memory  and their only hope  of treatment                                                              
is through art therapy.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KAPSNER stated that  at one  of the YKHC  inhalant                                                              
abuse conferences,  U.S. Senator  Frank Murkowski received  a very                                                              
heartfelt  plea  from  one  of   the  elders.    He  told  Senator                                                              
Murkowski that  his grandson  was a victim  of inhalant  abuse and                                                              
asked how  he [Senator Murkowski]  could help.  Senator  Murkowski                                                              
was able  to secure funding for  construction and the  first three                                                              
years  of operation  for a  treatment  facility in  Bethel, to  be                                                              
completed  on  October  31,  2001.    She  noted  that  there  are                                                              
currently only  two other treatment  facilities [in the  U.S.], in                                                              
South  Dakota   and  Texas,  and   that  Canada  has   around  ten                                                              
facilities.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Number 1050                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KAPSNER  continued, stating  that a 1998  survey by                                                              
YKHC  found  that  during  1996  and  1997,  161  Alaskans  sought                                                              
treatment  for  inhalant  abuse  at  drug  and  alcohol  programs.                                                              
During  the same  period  46 people  with  a  history of  inhalant                                                              
abuse  died.   A  1993  survey by  the  Indian Health  Service  in                                                              
Alaska looked at  the cost to society of inhalant  abusers if they                                                              
are left  untreated.  That study  found that a 19-year-old  with a                                                              
chronic history of  inhalant abuse, and with significant  brain or                                                              
organic damage,  would cost  society $1.4  million dollars  over a                                                              
lifetime  of   treatment,  medical  care,  social   services,  law                                                              
enforcement, and court costs.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 1108                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  COGHILL  asked if  there  were facilities  in  the                                                              
rest of the state.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KAPSNER answered  that to  her understanding,  all                                                              
abusers will  be sent to  this facility  [in Bethel].   House Bill                                                              
114 will  help medical  personnel and law  enforcement to  make an                                                              
assessment  of  an  individual.    It  will  not  send  first-time                                                              
inhalant users  who are six years  old to the  treatment facility,                                                              
but will only send the chronic users and abusers.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Number 1183                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BARBARA  BRINK, Director,  Public Defender  Agency. Department  of                                                              
Administration, testified  via teleconference.  She  said that the                                                              
Alaska  Public Defender  Agency agrees  that inhalant  abuse is  a                                                              
very serious  problem, not  only in the  rural locations  but also                                                              
among  Alaskan urban  youth.  She  stated that  the agency's  main                                                              
concern with  the bill is it  seems to take an  immediate approach                                                              
to  criminalization.   She stated  that Sections  1 and  2 of  the                                                              
bill  make [abuse  of inhalants]  a class  B misdemeanor  defense,                                                              
and  require  that  children  who   are  huffing  or  using  these                                                              
substances  go through  the  adult district  court  process.   She                                                              
stated  that the  agency's first  concern  with this  is that  the                                                              
district court  process is antithetical  to providing the  kind of                                                              
care  and  treatment that  kids  need.    She remarked  that,  for                                                              
example,  last year  Bethel handled  over  982 misdemeanor  cases,                                                              
while the juvenile  court only handled about 57 cases.   She added                                                              
that  the   criminal  justice  system   doesn't  work   well  with                                                              
addictive  behaviors,  but works  really  well at  holding  people                                                              
accountable and punishing  them with jail time.   The court system                                                              
itself  is  struggling   to  take  new  approaches,   including  a                                                              
therapeutic  course.   She stressed  that [this  bill] is  jumping                                                              
the  gun and  leaping immediately  to  a criminalization  process,                                                              
and  she  feels  that  the  civil  commitment  idea  is  the  best                                                              
approach.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 1261                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. BRINK continued,  stating that if there have  already been 150                                                              
people or  so requesting  treatment, it  appears that  coercion is                                                              
not  necessary.    If  this  act  were  changed  from  a  class  B                                                              
misdemeanor to a  violation, the danger that kids  could be jailed                                                              
for this  behavior would  be reduced.   She  suggested there  be a                                                              
less  criminalizing approach  first.   She stated  that the  other                                                              
potential problem  involves the fiscal  note report.  When  an act                                                              
is considered a  crime, prosecution and defense  must be provided.                                                              
With  a class  B  misdemeanor,  a person  is  entitled  to make  a                                                              
request for  appointed counsel and a  jury trial.  If  this were a                                                              
simple violation, those things wouldn't take place.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. BRINK  concluded that  perhaps [Alaska]  should look  at other                                                              
states' prevention, treatment, and encouragement methods.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 1352                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOULE  asked if it  is a crime when  minors consume                                                              
alcohol.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. BRINK replied  that currently it is looked at  as a violation;                                                              
however,  since driver's  licenses  can be  automatically  revoked                                                              
through  DMV  (Department  of  Motor Vehicles),  a  level  of  due                                                              
process is  required, including  a request  for appointed  counsel                                                              
and a jury trial.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Number 1398                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  DYSON asked,  to  clarify, if  Ms.  Brink was  recommending                                                              
that this be dealt  with as a violation in juvenile  court and not                                                              
as a misdemeanor.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. BRINK answered yes.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON  asked at what age she  thinks it would be  proper for                                                              
these violations to be heard in adult court.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. BRINK  replied that in  situations other than  status offenses                                                              
when a  person is using  a substance that  is causing  damage only                                                              
to that person,  her recommendation would be to leave  it at [age]                                                              
18.   She said that the  juvenile court is  set up much  better to                                                              
take into  account an individual  juvenile offender's needs.   She                                                              
added that  included in  the juvenile statute  there is  a section                                                              
that requires a  division to develop the individual  case plan for                                                              
each child.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Number 1463                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOULE  asked if a bill had been passed  in the last                                                              
few  years concerning  somebody  who was  hurting  kids or  taking                                                              
kids for  the purpose  of huffing.   He added  that if  not, maybe                                                              
this  is  a point  where  somebody  would  be  sent to  the  adult                                                              
courts.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. BRINK responded  that she does not recall  anything previously                                                              
done  in that  area.   However, she  said, Representative  Joule's                                                              
question brings  up a whole  other arena  of how to  regulate this                                                              
behavior.   She remarked that,  as Representative  Kapsner pointed                                                              
out, the  whole trouble  is that  [inhalant products]  are readily                                                              
available.   She suggested taking  a look at  what is done  in the                                                              
alcohol  arena  and  regulating   household  goods  to  discourage                                                              
people from buying them in the grocery store.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 1553                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
ALVIA   DUNNAGAN,  Lieutenant,   Department   of  Public   Safety,                                                              
testified via  teleconference.  He  stated that he deals  with the                                                              
legislative information  on bills that are proposed.   He said the                                                              
Department  of  Public Safety  supports  this  bill and  does  not                                                              
anticipate a fiscal impact.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  DYSON  stated  that  he  hoped  Lieutenant  Dunnagan  would                                                              
remark on the magnitude of the problem in his jurisdiction.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT  DUNNAGAN replied that  there are  many cases  in rural                                                              
Alaska where  young people and  adolescents are abusing  inhalants                                                              
to  the  point  of  (indisc.)  and death.    He  said  taking  any                                                              
enforcement  actions is  tough,  because [inhalant  abuse] is  not                                                              
against the  law.  He  added that looking  back in the  past year,                                                              
there are  only a handful of  cases documented as actual  abuse of                                                              
inhalant cases.   The reason  is that there's  a myriad  of things                                                              
abuse  cases  can be  attributed  to  or  classified, as  such  as                                                              
medical assists  or suspicious  circumstances.   He remarked  that                                                              
if VPSOs  and troopers  working  in the villages  in rural  Alaska                                                              
had  some kind  of  enforcement authority,  more  people would  be                                                              
made  aware of  the  fact that  there  needs to  be  some kind  of                                                              
intervention before the problem gets too serious.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON reiterated that he had specifically asked if                                                                        
Lieutenant Dunnagan had any information on how extensive the use                                                                
is in the urban areas.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT DUNNAGAN replied that he does not know.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Number 1731                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SANDRA  KLEVEN,  Clinical Social  Worker  and Coordinator  of  the                                                              
Rural Human  Services Program, Yukon-Kuskokwim  Health Corporation                                                              
(YKHC),  came forth  to testify  on HB  114.   She shared  several                                                              
experiences and observations relating to inhalant abuse:                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     I  admitted   an  11-year-old  boy  to   our  short-term                                                                   
     residential  facility that  described a  history of  gas                                                                   
     sniffing.   He  was also  recovering  from third  degree                                                                   
     burns  to his arm  and abdomen  as a  result of using  a                                                                   
     lighter to  illuminate the  shed where he was  sniffing.                                                                   
     Our team  admitted a 10-year-old  girl to "Charter"  who                                                                   
     continued  to experience hallucinations  long after  the                                                                   
     effects  of   gas  sniffing  should  have   cleared  her                                                                   
     system.  I  assessed a 10-year-old who couldn't  seem to                                                                   
     quit, and whose  family was terrified but  overcome by a                                                                   
     sense  of helplessness  trying to confine  him to  home,                                                                   
     but unable  to watch  him every  minute.  My  experience                                                                   
     with this  family gave me a  sense of how  addictive gas                                                                   
     sniffing  could  be.    This  boy  wanted  to  quit  but                                                                   
     couldn't quit.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. KLEVEN continued, stating:                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     I've also  had experience  with adult inhalant  abusers.                                                                   
     Our clinical  team meets every morning to  review crisis                                                                   
     calls, and  certain long-term clients surface  again and                                                                   
     again  needing  shelter and  care.    These are  men  in                                                                   
     their  20s whose  minds have  been permanently  impaired                                                                   
     from  sniffing, who  still  cannot stop.    They get  in                                                                   
     trouble  in their  villages,  create  problems in  their                                                                   
     families; they  begin to be  outcasts.  They  surface in                                                                   
     our  emergency system  lost,  homeless, and  in need  of                                                                   
     assistance.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 1825                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. KLEVEN continued, stating:                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     In  most villages  chronic  gas  sniffers are  known  to                                                                   
     public  safety officials.   The VPSOs  have told  me how                                                                   
     helpless  they are  to  intervene, as  there  is no  law                                                                   
     against  using  inhalants.   They're  helpless  as  they                                                                   
     watch  young  people  destroy   themselves  and  others.                                                                   
     Village  counselors  have tried  to respond  by  passing                                                                   
     local    ordinances,    but   there's    no    effective                                                                   
     enforcement.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. KLEVEN  remarked that the most  horrific impact she  wanted to                                                              
share occurred  almost two  years ago at  the start of  Holy Week.                                                              
She remarked:                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     A man in  his 20s, impaired from gas sniffing,  shot and                                                                   
     killed  his  seven-month-old  niece  because  her  cries                                                                   
     bothered  him.  Her  two-year-old brother witnessed  the                                                                   
     shooting.     The  village   was  devastated  [in]   the                                                                   
     aftermath  of  this  tragedy.    Our  behavioral  health                                                                   
     program  was asked to  lend support and  I flew  in with                                                                   
     the  Alaska  State Troopers.    As  I climbed  from  the                                                                   
     plane,  I  could  see  clear   plastic  bags  containing                                                                   
     tagged  evidence  ready  to  be  loaded  in  the  plane.                                                                   
     Included  was  the  baby's walker  the  tray  splattered                                                                   
     with blood.   I visited the  family's home and  tried to                                                                   
     replay in  my mind the  events of  the day before.   The                                                                   
     village  health aides  who  had responded  to the  call,                                                                   
     which knew this  baby and this family, were  in anguish,                                                                   
     and  two  have  since  resigned  due  to  post-traumatic                                                                   
     stress, in spite of our efforts to meet their needs.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 1911                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KLEVEN  concluded that  in  August  2001 when  the  treatment                                                              
facility  will open  in Bethel  to serve  young people  throughout                                                              
the  state, this  bill  could serve  as  an adjunct  to  treatment                                                              
services, lending authority to intervention efforts.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOULE asked why people are [using inhalants].                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. KLEVEN  responded that  it is  impossible to know  if it  is a                                                              
habitual  activity that  moves from  one  child to  another, or  a                                                              
result of problems  in the home where children are  looking for an                                                              
odd type  of self-medication to  escape from troubles.   She added                                                              
that maybe, in  the course of doing treatment  work with children,                                                              
more   of  the   motivating  and   mitigating   factors  will   be                                                              
discovered.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Number 1973                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON  asked if she has a  sense that the kids  are informed                                                              
of the danger and are doing it anyway.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. KLEVEN replied yes.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  DYSON asked  if  it is  her sense  that  parents have  been                                                              
actively warning [the children].                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. KLEVEN answered  yes, and said the parents are  often moved to                                                              
the  point  of frustration  and  losing  their temper  with  these                                                              
children.   She remarked  that this  is where  she gets  the sense                                                              
that it is  as addictive as  for a late-stage alcoholic,  the urge                                                              
to continue once it's become habitual.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON asked  if there is any knowledge about  the success of                                                              
when a  kid is detoxified  and there  hasn't been organic  damage,                                                              
and  he  or  she  receives  some  kind  of  behavior  modification                                                              
treatment.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 2044                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. KLEVEN  replied that  there is  not a lot  of success  to look                                                              
for.   She added that  as the Bethel  program is being  developed,                                                              
[YKHC]  has been visiting  the programs  in Canada  and the  Lower                                                              
48, in order to reach all of the expertise available.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON  suggested that  gas tanks have  locking gas  caps and                                                              
parents have  a locked box at home.   He asked whether  the amount                                                              
of inhalants is  so pervasive that isolation of  [the products] is                                                              
impractical.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. KLEVEN  replied that she  thinks it  could help.   In response                                                              
to an  earlier point,  she has  heard that  after some  prevention                                                              
efforts in the  schools, when the substances have  been shown, the                                                              
level  of  [inhalant]  use  increased.   As  a  result,  there  is                                                              
caution when  showing pictures and  examples.  She added  that all                                                              
of  the products  mentioned  are used  throughout  the state,  and                                                              
that in Bush Alaska gas is the primary choice.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Number 2134                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
PAM  WATTS, Executive  Director,  Advisory Board  on Alcoholism  &                                                              
Drug Abuse,  Office of  the Commissioner,  Department of  Health &                                                              
Social Services,  came forth  in support  of HB  114.   She stated                                                              
that  the  advisory board  worked  with  Representative  Kapsner's                                                              
office  last  year  helping  to  put  this  bill  together.    She                                                              
remarked  that there  is not  an easy  answer to  this problem  of                                                              
inhalant  abuse.   She  stated that  the  advisory board  supports                                                              
efforts  to intervene  early  with inhalant  abusers.   She  added                                                              
that it is not  necessary for every person to  go into residential                                                              
treatment;   however,  often   that   might  be   the  case   when                                                              
intervening  with chronic  users.  Having  the treatment  facility                                                              
in the state will certainly be an asset.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 2199                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. WATTS  remarked that  last year  the advisory board  supported                                                              
Representative   Kapsner's  efforts   to  modify   the  Title   47                                                              
involuntary  commitment  statute  to  be able  to  civilly  commit                                                              
persons  who  are abusing  inhalants.    After working  with  some                                                              
legal  support this  year,  [the Advisory  Board  on Alcoholism  &                                                              
Drug Abuse]  has some  problems with  [the involuntary  commitment                                                              
statute], because  inhalants are different than alcohol  and other                                                              
drugs.    However,   the  nature  of  the  Title   47  involuntary                                                              
commitment statute  is that there  must be significant  proof that                                                              
the individual is  an alcoholic or is addicted to  some drug.  She                                                              
said  that [the  Advisory Board  on  Alcoholism &  Drug Abuse]  is                                                              
concerned  that a  lot  of these  people,  particularly the  young                                                              
folks,  can't  wait that  long.    As mentioned,  there  are  some                                                              
concerns with making  this a misdemeanor, but [the  Advisory Board                                                              
on  Alcoholism &  Drug Abuse]  has heard  from some  of the  VPSOs                                                              
that this is  the only way to  intervene with some of  these kids.                                                              
If [the VPOs]  sees a young person  huffing, there is  no crime to                                                              
charge him or her with, because it isn't against the law.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 2232                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. WATTS  continued,  stating that  on the other  hand, a  person                                                              
may be  taken in  on a  Title 47, 12-hour  protective custody  and                                                              
put in jail  who has specific medical  needs.   There  is a chance                                                              
those needs  won't be  met and that  that person  could die.   She                                                              
clarified  that  with  the  Title   47  there  is  the  protective                                                              
custody; there is  also the involuntary commitment,  initially for                                                              
up to 30 days, and then possible recommitment for 180 days.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Number 2271                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  WATTS concluded  that  [the Advisory  Board  on Alcoholism  &                                                              
Drug  Abuse]  would like  to  continue  supporting  Representative                                                              
Kapsner  in forwarding  legislation  to protect  these  vulnerable                                                              
citizens.   However,  [the  Advisory Board  on  Alcoholism &  Drug                                                              
Abuse] does have some concerns about the way it is at present.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Number 2338                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOULE asked  if the  name of  her board  [Advisory                                                              
Board on  Alcoholism & Drug  Abuse] was  expanded at one  point to                                                              
include inhalants.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. WATTS replied that it wasn't.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOULE remarked  that at  some point  the issue  of                                                              
inhalants  was also tacked  on to  the duties  of the Division  of                                                              
Alcoholism & Drug Abuse.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS.  WATTS   responded  that  she   believes  that   is  accurate,                                                              
statutorily;  however, it  is not  in  the title  of the  advisory                                                              
board.  To clarify,  she stated that the board  certainly supports                                                              
inclusion of inhalants.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
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Number 2378                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MARIE  LAVIGNE,   Executive  Director,  National   Association  of                                                              
Social   Workers   (NASW),   Alaska   Chapter,   came   forth   as                                                              
representative  of   over  500  professional  social   workers  in                                                              
support of HB 114.  She stated:                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     As you have  heard, inhalant abuse is a  serious problem                                                                   
     in  Alaska, and  it  has reached  epidemic  proportions.                                                                   
     This  is a  public health  emergency  that we're  facing                                                                   
     that  warrants a  comprehensive  public health  approach                                                                   
     to  address inhalant  abuse,  including a  comprehensive                                                                   
     range of prevention  and intervention.  House  Bill 114,                                                                   
     in  our opinion,  is a  significant contribution  toward                                                                   
     addressing  this  problem.     National  Association  of                                                                   
     Social Workers  eagerly awaits the opening of  the first                                                                   
     inhalant   abuse   treatment   center  in   Alaska   and                                                                   
     continued  opportunities for  comprehensive  prevention.                                                                   
     The experience  of our members and social  work practice                                                                   
     is  Alaska  has  taught  us   that  intervening  at  the                                                                   
     earliest possible  opportunity is critical,  as inhalant                                                                   
     abuse  can kill  its  user  on the  first  attempt.   As                                                                   
     you've  heard   today,  brain  damage   and  significant                                                                   
     health concerns also result from inhalant use.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 2320                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. LEVIGNE remarked  that the NASW has two concerns  with HB 114.                                                              
She stated:                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     National  Association of Social  Workers encourages  you                                                                   
     to recognize  that inhalant  users are  the very  young,                                                                   
     adolescents,  and adults.   We have individuals  seeking                                                                   
     help and  mental health  support services across  Alaska                                                                   
     who are  adults who are  also abusing inhalants,  and we                                                                   
     need  to make  sure that  legislation includes  services                                                                   
     and  resources for  both  youth and  adults.   The  NASW                                                                   
     also has  concern with the  stigma that may  be attached                                                                   
     from criminalization  of inhalant use, and  we encourage                                                                   
     the sponsors  to consider other alternatives.   However,                                                                   
     we recognize,  more importantly, there's an  outcry from                                                                   
     our  communities  and  from our  members  across  Alaska                                                                   
     that we  need resources to  respond to this  epidemic of                                                                   
     inhalant use  and to offer  our public health  aids, our                                                                   
     VPSOs,   and   other  law   enforcement   officers   the                                                                   
     opportunity  to  respond  and  protect  inhalant  users.                                                                   
     Intervening  at the earliest  opportunity [is]  critical                                                                   
     to  prevent and  treat those  who  are using  inhalants,                                                                   
     and we encourage you to support HB 114.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 2220                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
ROBERT BUTTCANE,  Legislative &  Administrative Liaison,  Division                                                              
of  Juvenile  Justice   (DJJ),  Department  of  Health   &  Social                                                              
Services (DHSS),  came forth to comment  on HB 114.  He  said that                                                              
in his  experience in Juneau  he has not  encountered a  bill that                                                              
has  evoked such  levels  of discussion  and  consideration as  HB
114.   He said that  he has learned  more about inhalant  abuse in                                                              
the  past  two  weeks  than  he has  known  in  his  entire  life.                                                              
Remarking  on what  others have  said in  previous testimony,  Mr.                                                              
Buttcane stressed  that [inhalant abuse] is a  serious problem and                                                              
that it  is not a  new problem.   He stated  that it is  something                                                              
people have  turned a  blind eye  to, in part  because it  is very                                                              
easy to become  overwhelmed with the magnitude of  what might need                                                              
to be done  in order to address  or respond to this issue.   To do                                                              
nothing  could  well  cost  people their  lives;  to  do  anything                                                              
almost  makes a commitment  to do  everything,  which would  be an                                                              
incredible   commitment  of  financial,   personal,  and   medical                                                              
resources to address this problem.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Number 2106                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BUTTCANE stated  that  what he  thinks  HB 114  is trying  to                                                              
accomplish  is to identify  those people  who do abuse  inhalants,                                                              
to  find some  way  to formally  and systematically  separate  out                                                              
those  people who  maybe  are just  starting  to experiment,  from                                                              
those who  are addicted, and  who have suffered  physiological and                                                              
neurological damage, in order to respond appropriately.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 2085                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BUTTCANE stated  that  after identifying  these  kids, it  is                                                              
necessary to assess,  to educate, and to treat.   He added that at                                                              
that  point,   fiscal  ramifications   and  impacts  need   to  be                                                              
addressed.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  DYSON  asked if  Mr.  Buttcane's  has experienced,  in  the                                                              
criminal justice system,  kids who are "huffing" and  who are also                                                              
doing other criminal activity.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. BUTTCANE responded  that in the juvenile justice  system there                                                              
is not  a good  understanding of  the extent  of this problem  and                                                              
how it  associates with other delinquent  offenses.  Based  on the                                                              
discussion in  the past couple  of weeks,  it is the  DJJ's belief                                                              
that there are  "huffers" in the youth facilities  after they have                                                              
committed delinquent  offenses.  However, this issue  has not been                                                              
assessed because  it has not been  part of the  standard screening                                                              
process.  He  wondered, now, if some individuals  who were thought                                                              
to  have  one  issue  have this  issue  as  well  [being  inhalant                                                              
abusers].                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 2010                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOULE  commented that it  has been the  Division of                                                              
Alcoholism & Drug  Abuse's responsibility, for some  time, to deal                                                              
with inhalants.   He asked, to  be addressed at the  next meeting,                                                              
whether  there  have  been  any  efforts  and  requests  from  the                                                              
[Department  of Health &  Social Services]  to the legislature  to                                                              
do anything.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 1994                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  DYSON stated  that the committee  is going  to suspend  the                                                              
hearing on HB 114.  [HB 114 was held over.]                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                

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